Interview: February 9th 2001

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This is an interview I did for a fanzine based in Pattani, South Thailand.


I wrote this down five years ago, laid it out with some pictures on QuarkXpress, printed it and sent to the guy. He never replied after that! So I’ve never seen this published and I have been wondering since whatever happened to that zine editor or his zine. At the moment I can’t remember his name, nor his actual address but I’ll look for it soon.

During this period, Me and Fendi has decided to hibernate from being Carburetor Dung. We were jamming with Bullet as The Shitworkers and having so much fun doing something a bit different.

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INTERVIEW: FEBRUARY 9th 2001

Your first words for our readers…

Joe: Hello all, thanks for the support for our band but as I write these words Carburetor Dung has been inactive for almost 16 months! Me and bassist Fendi decided to have a rest from Dung in late 1999 and until now we haven’t rehearse or play live.

Our vocalist Lee is now busy with work, living on and off between KL and his hometown Kuantan. Drummer Ollie is still here in KL but we haven’t seen him for many months now, last time I heard he’s playing with a ska band called Gerhana Ska Cinta.

Me and Fendi actually reformed our old project band The Shitworkers and played a few live gigs here in KL but this band is also facing problems since our drummer Bullet is a busy man.

The Shitworkers will put out a CD of our rehearsal and live tracks very soon though. Now me and Fendi is starting another project band called Group Hug, we already have a few songs written and hoping to play live very soon.

Tell us what Carburetor Dung is all about? Do the words “carburetor dung” have any significant meaning?

Joe: As a band, Carburetor Dung was about doing what we like best; which is making a load of noise and raising some form of awareness about the usual socio-political issues around us. It was also about a bunch of close friends getting together and have a bit of fun.

For the meaning in the band’s name, I think it a two pronged thing. First of all its a homage to the legendary American music journalist Lester Bangs who were one of the few who supported real alternative music back in the late 60s and mid 70s. A collection of his writing was compiled in a book called Psychotic Reaction & Carburetor Dung.

On the other hand, I also think that Carburetor Dung is a derogatory name for the people who are used, abused and then ignored by the “machine” (i.e. the larger society, the businesses etc.).

A brief history of the band…

Joe: It’s a long story actually but it can be simplified as me and Fendi working with our friends since 1991. We are based in Kuala Lumpur and the band has had a few line-up changes through out the years. We also recorded one album in 1993 (Songs For Friends), one mini-album in 1998 (The Allure Of Manure) and a couple of tracks here and there.

For those who want more info on our history, just go to the website.

Some described Carburetor Dung’s music as “punk rawk”. What would you list as your musical influences?

Joe: First of all, “rawk” is just a silly corruption of the word “rock”, just to enhance the meaning a bit. It’s just stressing on the “dirt” of the very compromised word that is “rock”.

We play melodic, singalong punk rock but nothing like the commercial punk bands now big in the States. Some songs are heavy and fast, with emotional singing too. Our musical influences are many and varied but for the stuff we do in Carburetor Dung, it’s suffice to say that the gist of it is from a mixture of early 80s UK punk bands and also early Californian punk rock. So it can range from UK Subs to Discharge to 7 Seconds and Youth Brigade.

Of course, we always try to inject our own feel in all the songs. There’s no point is trying to sound like somebody else.

The band has already recorded and released its first album. So why does it take so long to put out the second one?

Joe: When we released our first album, “Songs For Friends”, it was on a independent label called VSP or Valentine Sound Production and we found out very soon that they were not being fair with the royalty payment. Since we were contracted for another album, we decided not to do anything until the contract expired in 1996. By 1996, we were free so we started recording a new album but that didn’t happen since the studio where we recorded the songs were closed down and the master recording were lost.

We tried again and again later but had money problems and also personal problems. It was only in 1998 that we managed to do a proper recording again, and that’s the year we recorded our mini-album “The Allure Of Manure” and put it out on our own label.

How does the songwriting done in the band?

Joe: Usually I would come up with a few riffs, either alone or with Fendi, and then we record it on cassette. When we are happy with the track, we would give the band members a listen and ask for their opinion. After that I would put in the melodies and lyrics and then we go rehearse the song. At this point, the other band members will put their own elements in there.

There are many songs which we rejected since we first formed in 1991; so we still have all these old “songwriting” cassettes which I think shouldbe interesting to go back to and visit sometimes.

I believe that Carburetor Dung has performed at various places as well as your own home base. Which place did you guys enjoyed playing most? How about the gig in Terengganu in 1999?

Joe: We’ve played many gigs all over the country. We nearly played in Bangkok once but the festival we supposed to play at was cancelled due to the economic crisis hitting Thailand.

Anyway, there were many good gigs we played, too many to really remember well. The one we always talked about was the Blast Off! gig in KL band in the mid-90s, there were 2,000 people there and most of them were singing along to our songs! That was really good.

I also liked a lot of the smaller gigs in Segamat, Batu Pahat, Kuantan and Ipoh. There are so many good people everywhere. As for the gig in Kuala Terengganu, it was a pleasant one since I have always wanted to play in KT, that’s the place where punk started for me back in the late 70s. It was like a dream came true.

How is the Malaysian scene nowadays? Do you have any good bands which you would like to mention here?

Joe: The scene is alive and well. I like the fact that many people started to go DIY rather than being signed to some big or dodgy labels. There’s also more socially-aware action and motivated groups like Food Not Bombs.

The fanzines are also getting better too, more thought and intelligence in the writing. Musically, it’s still very derivative of a certain set of mind or sound from some bands in Europe and the US. And that’s a bit of a shame really since I think a lot of our people are capable of doing more original music.

There are many new bands which I like here; some are close friends of mine like Amid The Mimic (noise, experimental band), Moxuan (post-punk/post-rock sung in Mandarin Chinese!), Fast Game (punk/HC crossover revival band), Mass Separation (heavy crust), Relationsheep (melodic peace punk), Marginwalker (post-punk with Jawbreaker influences), 4elm kids (indie-rock emo), FSF (which has split-up recently, they played fast early 80s US punk), Plea For Peace (melodic peace punk), The Worst of Me (acoustic singer/songwriter stuff) and many more.

As an old timer, what you define punk nowadays.

Joe: Well, one of the main thing about punk ever since the very beginning for me was self-empowerment and that is still very true till today.

Punk has inspired me to be a better person, either intellectually, creatively or morally (that is doing good things for the betterment of the world we live in). Another thing about punk which is still going strong is “education”.

A good punk band should NOT only entertain but also give us food for thought which will further enhance our lives and also our actions and also creative so that they can assimilate local cultural aspects into their music instead of regurgitating Western punk rock.

The third punk quality is “independence” and it doesn’t mean just being independent in terms of the music business but also in our day to day living – being who we are and live our own lives instead of someone else’s.

The rest are just ism-schism which you align yourselves to or subscribe to according to your own values, and you shouldn’t impose that on anybody around you.

Maybe you have something to say about these bands:

a) ACAB

Joe: I used to be good friends with Megat, the leader of the band. He’s a very good singer and songwriter. ACAB’s musical output is really on par with a lot of the great Oi! bands out there especially when guitarist Eddie were still playing with them. Their recordings have always been me and Fendi’s favourites.

One thing I don’t like about the skinhead scene is that many of them tend to be aggro, macho and really childish, most of the time bordering on being a violent & clueless fascist.

However, not all skins are like that and I would really love to see more intelligent and positively political skins. I hope many of them would follow the steps taken by the mid-80s political bands like The Redskins (UK).

b) Old Parasite

Joe: I know Zul from this Terengganu grunge band. he’s a nice guy, really passionate, but the old demos of this band sounds too derivative of the more popular grunge bands.

c) Butterfingers

Joe: This is how many new grunge bands try to sounds like nowadays but Butterfingers themselves are moving ahead with new ideas and influences far wider from the people who copy them. I like Butterfingers music sometimes and the people in the band are my friends but they are on a major label (EMI) which is exploiting them to the hilt and I have problems with that.

d) Silent Majority

Joe: I can’t remember much about this band. I think it was HC in some ways but maybe they have turned crust like everybody else? I saw them live ages ago, lots of energy but not the kind of music which I really dig. Whatever it is, they didn’t stand out from the rest. Maybe they are better now? I should check it again then.

e) Parkinson

Joe: Quite a popular crust band nowadays. I’m not really into their music much. Heard the same old thing too many times. Used to know one of the earlier band members and also was in touch with Jimbo until we had an ethical disagreement about a year ago. I can’t say much, my opinion about them is really old now. People change, so maybe I should give it another try.

Please give your opinion about these zines:

a) DRSA (Terengganu diy zine)

Joe: I know the editor, nice guy and he’s doing a lot of good things for the scene in KT. Haven’t been in touch with him for a while now, I don’t really know what happened. If you’re ever in KT, look for him and his bro.

b) Broken Vision

Joe: Run by Jimbo, also of Cronically Donut zine and Broken Noise Records. The zine is very much driven by anarchist ideals, most of the time not translated well enough to the context of being a Malaysian living on Malaysian soil like me. Still, it seems that it’s quite popular and thus influential; so I think a more realistic and localised approach to the ideas will be more beneficial.

c) Specific Heat

Joe: This is Fida’s zine isn’t it? Haven’t read it for ages so I can’t say much. The old issues saw Fida maturing up and getting better with each issue. It’s always nice to get the other side of the viewpoints.

d) Callus

Joe: This was one of the most promising zine around with its first issue but now it’s still in limbo, maybe too many ladles in the broth is not good for the actual dish? Hopefully it’ll wake up and unleash its mighty self on us again soon.

e) Fuzztival (Riot Grrrl zine from KT)

Joe: Haven’t seen it yet. Nice grungy name though. What’s the address? How much a copy?

Many bands sing lines like “smash the system” or “smash the government”, but sometimes they are afraid to step to direct action. What do you think about this.

Joe: First of all, many bands are just repeating what their favourite bands sing on their songs, somehow the words touch them deep inside and that made them wanna sing the same thing but actually there are not many bands around here who really understand what they are singing about, let alone come up with an intelligent, cohesive and easily understandable explanation to their lyrics.

If they do, many of them are just skipping on the surfaces, which is dead easy – just keep reading all the old Profane Existence issues and swallow them all without munching.

I always think that to have political change; you need the masses behind you, and thus, the first step is to have them understand you and also take those ideals as their own, and for them to understand, you as the rallying cry, not only must understand the people but also understand the subject you’re trying to get across.

Personally, what the people need is not some simplistic slogans. They need knowledge, understanding and acute awareness of what can be done to have a change for the better. You can smash this and smash that but what is the following actions which will ensure your goals?

On the other hand, I also understand the prevailing fear of the government which has been instilled in all of us since we were very young. Many of us are too scared to get right into the thick of things with direct action and the fear is very valid indeed. Still the act of voicing our concerns and views through our songs is still very relevant and much needed to create awareness amongst the people.

So it doesn’t really matter whether the bands would carry forward their views and ideals by way of political activities or not, as long as they are affecting the people with their musical activities. It’s not a total loss.

As for direct action, the best method of direct action is when people were made to think, learn, realise their position and finally emphatise with your ideals. And also, as Crass said it, “don’t get caught”.

Which is more important, music or the message?

Joe: Personally, the answer is both but I do admit that some tunes lacking in lyrical substance can still be enjoyable due to the songwriting.

Tell us what are the songs and from which bands you guys would like to cover during your gigs and why…

Joe: We rarely play covers so we can count by our fingers the cover songs played by us all these years. Most well known is “Do Nothing” by The Specials, this is because we are big fans of The Specials and also we emphatise with the lyrics, still we would enhance it further by putting on our own lyrics to it.

We also used to play one of Face To Face’s early tunes, can’t remember what it called as we only played it once back in 1994. We also played Stiff Little Fingers’ anti-war song “Wasted Life” and also Sex Pistols’ “EMI”. That’s it.

What’s your view about Straight Edge? Are there any SxEx movement in Malaysia?

Joe: SxEx is fine by me as long as it’s not militant/fascistic and especially if the people practicing it are really honest with it. They are too many people in it due to peer pressure and also trendiness. All of us in Carburetor Dung are more “spiral” edge then straight. We are a bunch of naughty people.

There are no SxEx movement as such here in the local scene but there are people who branded themselves SxEx since they don’t smoke or drink alcohol. I’ve met many ex-Straight Edgers from the West who would get out from SxEx when they are older due to the fact that they just wanna have fun sometimes. Give it a bit of slack, I’ll say.

We always heard the saying “punk is more than music”, how true is this from reality?

Joe: It’s very true. All you need to do is read this interview again. Punk has always been different from other genre of music due to its other agendas, especially the socio-political areas it attached itself to. Without it, punk will be like any other forms of music; fashion and entertainment and nothing much else.

What do you think about your current political situation? Do you agree with me if I say that there is no more freedom of speech in Malaysia?

Joe: To the first question, I have to say that we are in quite of a bind now. Things are rather chaotic with vastly different schools of thoughts vying for power; right from the patriotic, nationalist, racist ones to the militant fundamentalist Islamists on the other side.

As for the lack of freedom of speech over here; that has always been the case if you just look at the surface of the big picture. Truth is the advent of the internet has some how changed that a lot, and for those who are creative there are always a lot of channels for their voice, right from all the theatre works, to arts to music etc.

So in short, there are ready avenues for your speech and expression but the problem is the effectiveness of the address; I mean, most of these voices don’t reach the majority of the people who really need the message.

This is also affecting the DIY scene, many bands are saying a lot of good things but it seems like most of the bands only wants “their” people to listen to it. So what happens to the rest of the people out there? Why can’t they also have the ability to obtain your art and benefit from it?

Have you heard of any bands/zines from Thailand?

Joe: I heard about some old Bangkok punks through Luk Haas many years ago. There was this blind punk guy called Dok Mohok selling stuff at a market there. Don’t know what happened to him. Then there was The Toilet, a band of expat kids living in Bangkok.

Also the gig done by American pop-punk band All You Can Eat there. I went to Bangkok twice and met Sid or Norasate Mudkong (who was originally from Pattani!) and he was running a magazine called Generation Terrorist, also a club where I saw two really good indie-pop bands. I’ve lost touch with Sid and my friends who went to Bangkok to find him said that he has disappeared!

Anyway, now Bangkok has a zine initiated by Chris (this New York Hardcore guy who are living there). From him I heard that many bands in Bangkok are more influenced by MTV-bands like Limp Bizkit and Korn, but there are a bit of a scene going with a club run by the guys from the nu-metal band called Plahn. Hopefully we’ll see a punk or HC band there soon. Is there a scene in Southern Thailand?

Before we end this chat, maybe you want to say something for the new comers here..

Joe: Well, first of all, never underestimate the power of punk rock as a life-changing, mind-expanding and self-liberating experience.

Many of us would go through their “punk-phase” without being affected but there are also many of us which will forever be indebted to the knowledge, experiences and the awareness created by punk rock’s constant call for a better you, a better community and a better world.

You can take punk rock as just another form of entertainment but you would not escape from its socially-concerned, politically questioning nature. Another thing, punk rock is not only music or fashion but it’s also a way of living your lives as a responsible, thinking and action-oriented human beings.

Lastly, punk rock is also about your own self-empowerment, realising that you also can rise above all of these negativities you are surrounded with, that you can be that person which you want to be, that you yourselves can achieve what it is that you are dreaming for.

All you need is knowledge, experiences, openess, love, commitment and passion for a better world, which means you have to start by changing yourselves first.

All in, YOU CAN DO IT!

Your last words?

Joe: Terima kasih for your interest in what we have to say. At the moment, we don’t really know whether Carburetor Dung will be back together or not but me and Fendi is still together and do things together. Maybe we will be able to go there and play for you people one of these days. Salam persaudaraan from us both.

END.

Joe Kidd

OLD BASTARD!

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6 Responses

  1. jem says:

    boo hoo clapping song n mari nyanyi menjilat is good song.pad ex5 aku ada sticker carburator dung.. friends 4 friends..TN4412 at Rompin, Pahang

  2. Joe Kidd says:

    Hey Zul, good to know you’re reading this. Anyway, your writing is pretty confusing, epecially with no paragraphing. So I actually tried to make sense of it (for documentation sake) by editing the post. I stopped halfway now since I got a bit confused. Will try again and send it back to you for approval so I can post it back here a more coherent, understandable version; like I said, for the sake of documenting the more historical part of your posting.

    On to my replies:

    1. I gave all the RO tapes a listen those days but I didn’t like them. However at the same I decided not to say anything as I don’t want to dishearten you musicians. I have always had problems with “grunge” bands. I never liked Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and all that crap. Nirvana’s okay and Mudhoney is still excellent, but most local bands were just copying them and I’m afraid, RO was sounding like one of those copycats.

    Looking at it now, I think it was a mistake to not tell you how I feel about RO’s music. Anyway, too many bands stopped doing stuff after a few criticisms from well-meaning people. Too many people were/are being too precious.

    2. I thought Akta’s show at Paul’s was good, very different, pretty exciting. The problem was with the space. I can’t see what was happening as everyone was crowding over the band, which was not onstage. The strobelight thing was good too, especially in the dark.

    3. I thought a lot of the people liked the performance despite the lengthy soundcheck and and faulty equipment. The only problem was the time taken by the band, it went on and on, I remember, so it did tested some people’s patience and also fucked up the schedule. That’s what I remember from the show.

    And so, it’s not the style or the genre or the sort of music you guys play, i.e. it was not the method that has pissed off the kids. It was the time taken by the band.

    4. I don’t like all this whining by you, Zul. When you do something different, something that challenges the usual comfort zones, you should expect indifference, annoyance and plain dismissal from people whose perceptions you are trying to challenge. In fact, when you got such reactions it means that you have successfully managed to make them sit up and notice.

    Anyway, lets see the comments on the performance again:

    Comment by amir nanda | 2005/07/25 at 01:01:55

    just got back dari show. i have to comment something on akta angkasa. i’d just say they are a very promising outfit, non-typical in the scene. Here, i’m not going to comment on the music, but rather the lengthy setup. You guys took almost 2 hours to setup and soundcheck. that’s very primadonna-ish behaviour for a band that’s barely played, what… 10 gigs maybe?

    so many people complain and then finally lost interest and went out to talk cock/ makan kedai mamak tak sedap. not to mention people mingling and talking around during your set. that’s lost opportunity, man. from my point of view, what you guys are playing is akin to a performance art, and to be honest you need to do everything possible to attract people to see it. And guess what one of the most effective way is? yes, cut down on the setup time. i’m very, very sure with practise you guys can setup in paling lama pun 30 minit. roadie korang mcm ramai ape?

    respect goes to you guys for bringing every single thing you need to use. dalam scene kita ni pun ramai lagi dok pinjam strap and kabel gitar (’sapa ada metal zone? bole pinjam tak?’) so its refreshing to see an outfit that really is committed and dedicated in trying to represent their sound they way they feel it should be. kudos and keep up the good work

    here’s the one by me:

    Comment by dungboy|manureman | 2005/07/25 at 11:23:31

    I’m with Amir on Akta Angkasa. As much as I admire the ideas and tenacity of holding court right in the middle of the floor with a strobelight flashing, while the band members flit between utter cacophony and post-rock guitar wrangle, there’s a fine line between good well-played performance and utterly annoying wanking self-indulgence.

    The atmosphere created by the set-up was good. It’s something pretty communal and very rare but then the hesitated, unsure, unconfident nature of the band when moving from one song to another was really grating on the nerves.

    The band also didn’t know when to stop and so they kept on playing and playing even when the enthusiasm for it has evidently left the crowd. They overstayed their welcome, resulting in a lot of people, me included, going down to the street to talk cock, as Amir correctly pointed out.

    That said, I really would like to see the band again next time but hopefully without the unfortunate excesses and the unnecessary extra baggages.

    Okay.

    If you read those two comments again, you’ll see both of us were trying to encourage you guys. Both are constructive criticisms.

    Again, you are being too precious with your music. Give it a bit of slack. It was after all the band’s first show.

    I have to be honest, I don’t like pretensions. Which is why I said “there‚Äôs a fine line between good well-played performance and utterly annoying wanking self-indulgence”. This is a typical reaction (at least from me) when people attempt at playing something weird and unconventional. But of course, who can tell and judge? I go by my gut feeling, and that day I felt something not right.

    Anyway, if people don’t like it, then fuck them, y’know. You do what you want to do. If being “popular” and agreeable is so important to you, then play what the people want to hear and see. Play something safe and unchallenging. Be in that comfort zone, y’know and appeal to the masses.

    Like I said, “I really would like to see the band again next time” but yet I haven’t got the chance, maybe out of laziness or just purely economically-challenged.

    All in, don’t whine lah. Just go and do it bro! For me, Akta Angkasa is a worthwhile endeavour, way better than all those old grunge worship. Way more challenging than 95% of the bands we see around here. But of course, nothing is perfect, accept that and get over it.

    cheers,

    Joe

  3. Zul says:

    Yupp… Before I play now with Akta Angkasa, I’ve pulled out in so many bands previously including this pretty earlier amateur namely Restricted Overripe. I was drumming for a band called ‘The Fossils’ back in ’95/96; went off disbanded after more than two years, feeling awkward & I continued my songwritings by started up a new band, and yes they’re Restricted Overripe. The old name was Disgusted Big Green, given by a friend of mine. But this time I do the vocals and play guitar as well. Played more deep grunge but yet typical – nothing special. Haha. I went to Joe Kidd’s house in ’98 and passed several rehearsals we’ve done back then. Some using ‘gitar tong’ recorded with my vintage hi-fi, & the last would be the most irritating noisy band demo recordings of the century, seriously. I don’t even remember was he ever listening to the tapes; well I guess not, did you? We were back with a proper recording in 2000, 7 or 8 songs completed; I do think it’s cool but I never release it until now. I hope I still keep it the way it should. Nope, Nizang… RO and Old Parasite were performed at the Grunge Fest, Colors on September 23rd, 2000 and it’s not 2001. The only RO’s live show ever. FYI, I spent a lot of my childhood then in Dungun, Terengganu (same as you Joe) since 1982/83, until I really moved to Kerteh in 1994. Kerteh was a heaven to me then. I grew up introducing local hometown to punk/hardcore, from junk trashy music to friendship to ethic, everything was great then until 2000 or 2001, the scene considers dead. Yupp, dead at all. At least by me, however. Perhaps, the last documentation from Kerteh is not-going-to-be-released(?) compilation consisting only 4 bands I believe. The master copy is safely with me. Recorded in 2001. I have no idea about Kerteh ever since. I moved on and later played in other bands including punk rawk geeks Uncle Tobie, Tim Yohannon, Fags and Stoned (sume pun dah takde lagi, including F&S says their end in JB last February – I was in for a session guitar jekk la Nizam), post-hardcore F.I.T.R.A.H in 2001 and several more bla bla… BTW I was into a lot of session musicianship indeed (until now), which I enjoy more rather than be serious in any committed band wuttsoever… Joe, I know, only ONCE; you saw us (Akta) at DxDx show in Paul’s – somehow remains the most overreacted crap performance ever, bad ideas of bringing own materials & equipments to freakin’ showbiz venue, unorganised outfit full of shit by put up the longest runner of set up & soundcheck wrack in history (yeah we won it!), and again bored crap music for all shitty ears – fucked off by whole bunch of raya DIY clueless mabok ke sober ke fuckhead & ‘metalcore’ scumbangs who can’t much appreciate ‘something’ in the scene practically… Hey why not be mistaken for more?! Well, you know wut, of too much bad shit throwning over – I don’t give a damn. I’m glad of all happenings, BTW the whole situation frustrated me with wut’s punk rock all about. Period. Haha. Jokes carry on. Yeahh, slightly in common with previous WMFM, Ando Natsu, Fuckchop, and the gang – experimental noise strongroom institution gauge, rite; but hey nothing when it comes to the structure of musical progression – No bull; we play punk music & they just noise. You got that? Well cool, it’s a healthy thing dude to at least compare with anything in the world you might familiar or noticed with, let’s say Akta with WMFM; a continuation? Are you serious? Which part? The noise thing..? Big predictable huhh, so now you on it… To hell with me, I’m not saying a word. It’s your think-wise, so be it. I just don’t give a damn. Okay, I’m not tends to white up any correction or reshining understandable compassion – July 24th ’05, Paul’s Place; Akta Angkasa or we failed 100% (or should I put more 110%?) to experience local punk/hc kids how a solid bold performing art (sound/visual/movement motivation) can be a good merge alongwith punk music & philosophy-ethical within a mass DIY productivity… In the end; a good motivation though, but yes a true fail outcome. So mesej x sampai la bro..! So wut’s the problem?? Yes, soalan cepumas. I’m fatigued of answering the same old Qs all over again, but I guess you know it; technically – Power source, sudden-error-to-functioning equipments, bla bla bla never ends… No, there were NO extra luggages as you’ve mentioned in Ricecooker last year. It just, they’re not working, suddenly and APPARENTLY! …Guess any bands here would try any hard to push drastic distinctiveness, losing great numbers of $$ and energy, researching what music to do best so; just to put out a great-sharing memorable live show ever – just for the sake of our future beloved ‘cold’ scene? Any bands? Tell me if there are. I do believe we’re not trying too hard to make so. People do exactly. So I leave it there. To be continued.

  4. nizang says:

    yeap, now he’s in Pattani working at syariah body or something there. At that time, he come back to Ktrg quite often. But not nowadays, i think.

    Specific Heat zine/distro was actually a Singapore-based zine/distro, done by Syikin (or now known as Kyn). She’s singing for My Precious now.

    While Fida’s zine was 90’s Choice. Both of the zines were among my favorites.

    Fida is now in Lyon, France. Married to Sebastian (or Seb) of We’re Gonna Fight zine/distro.

    Both have myspace, go search for it! Huhu!

  5. Joe Kidd says:

    Thanks Nizang.

    If he was living in KT why did he wrote using that Thai address? Weird. I was really exciting because it implied that there was something happening in Southern Thailand. I’ve been had! Hahaha! Maybe it’s a ploy to have me writing back ASAP! It worked!

    Oh, so I was wrong about Old Parasite, I mistook it for Restricted Overripe! I’ve seen Akta once. Pretty unique approach. A bit like a continuation of what Seremban’s WMFM (Wake Me For Meals) used to do but without the intense angst of “a boy done wrong” as potrayed by WMFM’s Anchoi.

  6. nizang says:

    i think the editor is Zapi Combat, who actually was living in Jln Kamaruddin (besides Rizal Fuzztival) house, KTrg. His zine name (which actually never released) was Green Communitas or something. Rizal helped him a lot with the zine making, but never came out…He used to come around to one of the jamming sessions held at the lat A//Mince studio/infoshop.

    I just met Rizal just now at my house who came with Zafran (Skitsofrenia) and we went for dinner. Rizal was always at my house last year borrowing my computer for his bro’s cafe/restaurant design stuffs. He’s still doing Fuzztival zine (good independent music zine, but never been distribute properly). Issue 3 is in the making with planned pro-printing. It’s not a riot grrrl zine, it’s an all-rounder music zine. But slow in the making like 1 issue per 1 or 2 years.

    The other zine he’s making (with 2-3 grrrl friends) is the Grrrl: Rebel which is coming to its issue 5 soon. It covers worldwide grrrl bands scene. And quite well-known out side too. Issue 4 was done pro-printedly.

    He’s also working on Amazon Planet comp. Vol 2 is coming out soon featuring Devil Dolls. This is a compilation of Grrrl bands worldwide. Vol 1 is still available i think (lemonsodarecords@lycos.com). He’s crazy about Grrrl bands, if you go to his house u can find lotsa lotsa grrrl bands CDs and cassettes.

    Old Parasite was a 3-piece grunge band that i know in 1999. After a few years, Leji and his little bro, Iju moved and worked in Kuantan and reformed it as a 5 piece band playing Muse kinds of music. Just recently they disbanded.

    Zul was in another grunge band at that time. Restricted Overripe. Cool grunge band at that time. They played along with Old Parasite at one Grunge fest at Colors in 2001.

    Zul was the main man from Kerteh scene back then. Now, he’s playing with Fags And Stoned (NOFX style punk rock band) and Akta Angkasa (some people say like Sonic Youth sometimes)…

    ok, tata…huhuhuu!!

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